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Recessive, although fertilizing and flowing;
The active is similarly taking hold, and in harmony.

There is a scarce amount of information about Lottie's parents and grandparents through the census records and Indian rolls. The following is a possible family history made up from inadequate information: So far, from what information I can gather, it seems that Lottie's grandmother had originally lived in Kentucky and then was probably removed to Tennessee where she remained on Chief Doublehead's reserve where she met Mr. Hatcher who was listed as "Mr. Hatch" on a U.S. government list of settlers in that area. Although Chief Doublehead was a fierce warrior who had fought and killed many Americans (and even ate some), he was killed by another Cherokee leader, Major Ridge, for secretly ceding Cherokee land to the whites for his own personal gain. Doublehead's reserve was part of a bribe.1 Sarah (Sallie) Hatcher was born to Mr. Hatcher and his wife while they were in Tennessee. They probably withdrew from the tribe and lived as citizens of the State of Tennessee before the "Trail of Tears" in 1838. They are not listed on any Cherokee rolls after that time.

The Stove lacks provisions;
Entreaties from a neighbor.

*Sarah Hatcher became Daniel Turner's second wife and was listed as the head of household in the 1880 Census with the young couple, Henry and Lottie Price, and their baby living with her. This was after the two babies previously mentioned had died. They had five surviving children and when my grandfather, Lon Price, was nine, James Henry Price died and Lottie took her children to live her oldest son in Muskogee Co., Oklahoma at the same time that the Dawes Rolls were being completed. She probably did not apply for enrollment with the tribe thus disqualifying me from enrolling with the Bureau of Indian Affairs recognized Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma. Had she applied, she might have still had problems enrolling because her ancestors were not on the earlier rolls and enrollment might have been difficult because it was tied to the allotment of oil rich land even though she was one quarter Cherokee. That was enough Indian blood to have had her removed from the State of Georgia had she been living there during the 1830's.

I have joined the Tsalagiyi Nvdagi tribe of Cherokees based in Texas which is not recognized by the BIA but was founded in 1819 when Chief Diwali (known to whites as Bowles) took a band of Cherokees into what was then Mexico. The Tsalagiyi, under the name of Texas Cherokee, signed a treaty with the Republic of Texas on February 23, 1836. Texas violated that treaty when they drove the Texas Cherokee and their related bands from Texas by force on July 16, 1839, and Chief Diwali was killed. I am proud to be a member of this tribe that has made membership available to those of us who have Indian ancestry but who cannot qualify as being Native American by the laws established by the United Sates government.


The Yellow Ting is hollow;
Its center and its border;
Neither food nor drink;
Trusting, lacking harm.

Lottie Price (known to the family as Grandma Price) died the same year that my father was born, 1926. The Great Depression soon followed and six years later my grandfather died of tuberculosis, thus leaving my grandmother (we called her Mama Price) with nine children to raise and support by herself during one of the worst financial crises our country has ever experienced. Mama Price had been raising children almost all her life. Her mother died while her younger siblings were still babies.

The Cherokee influence might have diminished some with the death of my grandfather but then again my grandmother might have inherited some Cherokee influence through her step great grandmother who was Lottie's mother. One of her great uncles, Robert Presley Turner, had moved to Cherokee Territory during the mid 1800's and his descendants married Cherokees. Those cousins, who are enrolled with the Cherokee Nation, still come to some of our family reunions.


The stove lacks fuel;
Its edges are made of gold.

It is much too difficult for me to separate out any of our family traits that have been inherited from our Cherokee ancestry. One of my uncles has dark skin and lived off the land to enhance his Navy retirement. My brother had dark skin also, but the fact that my father's side of the family has not ever seem to have had a trace of bigotry and we all seem very tolerant of all religions could possibly be traced to Cherokee influences. Maybe it would also explain why we were so drawn to the mysteries of Freemasonry. However, such speculation only leads to Indian stereotyping. The great influence I have personally felt is just in knowing that I am part Cherokee. However, I have to admit that, like many of us, I have probably been more influence culturally through living in the suburbs and growing up with a television. I do not even have much of a Texas accent. In my research I seem to be trying to find the pale hues of different cultural influences through the great white-wash of American popular culture.

*Further information about Sarah Hatcher and Daniel Turner has been found by my sister, Becky Sander-Cedarlof. Their marriage was both Daniel's and Sarah's second marriages. Sarah had two children as Sarah Burke thus adding to the confusion of the Price/Turner side of our family history. For further information please contact Becky.

1 Brown, John P. Old Frontiers; Arno Press; 1938.

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